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Suspension Setup Tips
posted by RoubaixRider at 03:56 PM on April 18, 2007
Our friends over at specialized.com have just launched a new suspension setup guide for the Enduro SL that includes a video of our Suspension Director and shock rockstar Mike McAndrews. In the video, he can be seen discussing suspension development with our racers, and talking about how to setup the suspension on our Enduro SL. Check it out, let us know what you think!
www.specialized.com/suspensionsetup
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Comments (48)
07:57 PM on April 18, 2007 UTC thatdownhillkid wrote:
THANK YOU I NEEDED THIS!!
11:30 AM on April 19, 2007 UTC Very Dangerous wrote:
I needed it too. But he contradicts himself on the rear suspension setting.
Which is stiffest? Left or right? When you can see the S or the F?
What do S and F stand for?
Soft and Full?
01:16 PM on April 19, 2007 UTC Sondra Williamson wrote:
Great to hear that the video is helping you out. To answer your question, the rear suspension is most firm when the blue compression knob is turned to the right. (You see the F facing up.)
10:07 PM on April 19, 2007 UTC SquidBuzz wrote:
Will they be making a site that covers the Epic?
01:21 AM on April 20, 2007 UTC Very Dangerous wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up for me!!
Obviously Soft and Firm!!!! Doh!!!
09:29 AM on April 20, 2007 UTC Rusty Kogz wrote:
Yo SquidBuzz, much of the info in the Enduro SL video is applicable to your Epic. Sag set-up, rebound adjustment, etc., are all the same prinicples for your bike. The only thing you need to be aware of for sag set-up is that to reach your sag point, you need to stay seatedon teh bike for 10 or 15 seconds (because the Brain makes settling into the sag point slower.) if you have any specific questions, fire away.
07:32 PM on April 20, 2007 UTC David G wrote:
Does this apply to the Stumpjumper FSR Expert?
Thx
08:10 PM on April 20, 2007 UTC SquidBuzz wrote:
Rusty, thanks for the help. I was just wondering if the fork and shock initial settings would be the same since the geometries are slightly different between the two bikes.
09:39 AM on April 21, 2007 UTC sese wrote:
Hello! First, excuse me by my English elementary one.
The future fork e150 SL loses air after to be reduced to 110 mm of travelling.
What happens? Thanks.
10:54 AM on April 22, 2007 UTC EpicRacer wrote:
there should be a vid like this for the Epic. really, how many people out there actually own an Enduro SL?
06:12 AM on April 23, 2007 UTC Very Dangerous wrote:
Me!! And a very fine machine it is...
08:53 AM on April 24, 2007 UTC illcomm33 wrote:
That was a great explanation. I agree about having a video for the Epic (epicracer) Thanks!
07:36 AM on April 26, 2007 UTC Robin de Geus wrote:
Hello Riders,
I need some help with the Premium Account. I cant click the link to Join, Can somebody explain me why?
Thanks in advance.
Robin.
09:55 PM on April 26, 2007 UTC Epic Mike wrote:
Awesome! This will make a big difference in my riding for sure! I always thought there was a better way to dial my ride in!
09:58 PM on April 28, 2007 UTC Ricardo Motta wrote:
Great explanation from a real expert, and well produced. Thanks!
07:08 PM on April 29, 2007 UTC PW Dave wrote:
Useful video. I'd love to see some more of this sort of instructional video. Cheers
03:29 PM on May 02, 2007 UTC Boyd Ames wrote:
Great explanation! I agree with some of the other riders. A lot of development went into the BRAIN, a short clip on setting the sag would help the non engineers out there. And a short discussion on tuning your ride with respect to the locking feature. Cheers!
10:18 AM on May 04, 2007 UTC limey1664 wrote:
i have a enduro sl and have weeping oil from just under the travel adjust. any one else had any problems. im starting to wonder if these bikes are not hard hitting enough, ive only ridden for 2 hours (quite hard though).
04:45 PM on May 04, 2007 UTC Shimanodog wrote:
Specialized will be making vids for all upcoming 2008 suspension models. The DVD/steaming video will be available on-line OR come with the bike when you buy one.
12:37 PM on May 07, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Hi, duz anyone know which was the chosen company to produce the new Enduro sl fork??
09:07 PM on May 09, 2007 UTC Hobbs wrote:
Hey I own a hardrock, and since my parents bought it for me I'm going to have it for a while. Does anyone have any suggestions on suspension ideas?
02:26 PM on May 10, 2007 UTC Rusty Kogz wrote:
Squidbuzz - sorry fo the slow response. . . been busy. For sag on your Epic, you shoudl run about 20% of total travel in sag front and rear. i.e. 20mm. To get to 20%, start at the pressure you believe you should run. Push the tavel o-rings to the seal on the fork and shock. sit on the bike and wait for about 10 seconds. Smoothly dismount. Measure the distance from the seal to the o-ring. if it's more than 20mm, put a few poound more pressure in. If it's less than 20mm, take a few PSI out. push the o-rings to teh seals and repeat the process untill you get to 20mm.
02:29 PM on May 10, 2007 UTC Rusty Kogz wrote:
Boyd - the only major adjust on teh brain itself is the "BrainFade" blue knob. This lets you dial-in how firm or plush the Brain is on smooth terrain. If you want ultiamte efficiency, turn it full clockwise. If you want the plushest ride, turn it all teh way the counter-clockwise. Most find somewhere in between suits their fancy.
02:31 PM on May 10, 2007 UTC Rusty Kogz wrote:
Limey - The travel adjust side of your E150 fork is the air spring. There is a bit of oil inside that leg, but it is unlikely that it woud weep out. More likely is that some of the oil used externally for assemply has become visible. If you have not lost air pressure, then you don't have an issue.
01:20 AM on May 11, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Rusty kogs-The weeping oil issue is a known fault, my Enduro does it and Specialized are changing the Travel adjust cartridge on my bike, according to Spesh they say its simply a nicked seal when the fork was assembled, other issues are creaking,fixed by removing old threadlock and re-torqueing the bolts and the fork sticking in the lower travel position ,again a newer travel adjust cartridge will sort it.
Those guys at Specialized are sooo helpful.
08:12 AM on May 11, 2007 UTC Hobbs wrote:
does anyone have any recomendations for 4 inch. forks.
04:36 PM on May 11, 2007 UTC Rusty Kogz wrote:
Thanks, SL Rider. Good to know Specialized is taking care of it.
04:28 AM on May 14, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Oh dear!, my Enduro sl attitude adjuster is leaking, my compression dial is broken and to top it all the left leg has developed a crack where the pinch bolt goes through the axle clamp. Im being sent a new fork. Has anyone else had any issues regarding the Enduro sl fork????
04:27 PM on June 01, 2007 UTC Top tube wrote:
I bought an Enduro SL comp last week.
my e150 fork has basically a complete loss of air after about 48 hours. also, the rebound even on the fastest setting feels a smidge too slow.
the compression dial on the afr shock does almost nothing. the difference between full soft and full firm is very small. overall the shock is very firm at recommended psi for my weight and does not react very well or at all to small bumps and chatter bumps. I have not tried a lower psi, but even still, I would like my compression damper to work :)
07:24 AM on June 04, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Hi, Top tube the loss of air can be sorted by a warranty replacement of your air chamber but as for the suspension feel it took my bike 2 months of riding for the fork and shock to bed in, now its far plusher plus you need to leave youe bike upside down over night every once in a while to allow fork oil to top up the lube on the seals.
07:24 AM on June 04, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Hi, Top tube the loss of air can be sorted by a warranty replacement of your air chamber but as for the suspension feel it took my bike 2 months of riding for the fork and shock to bed in, now its far plusher plus you need to leave youe bike upside down over night every once in a while to allow fork oil to top up the lube on the seals.
07:24 AM on June 04, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Dont know how that double posting happened lol.!!!
08:43 PM on June 10, 2007 UTC Mike S-C wrote:
Just had cartridges replaced and now have compression adjustment at last.
BUT I've got this annoying clunking coming from the top of the right leg.
Any Ideas? Back to my LBS for me :-(
07:59 AM on June 11, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Hi, if you speak to Spesh and tell them about your problems im sure they will overnight a complete newer production fork, thats what i did and no probs now.
I hope !!!!
05:37 AM on July 06, 2007 UTC squid rings wrote:
All this SL fork stuff is all too familiar. Exactly the same experinces i.e. replaced top tube/loss of air in "climb" setting/odd noises/no apparent change in compression upon adjustment etc. Have not tried storing up-side down yet. My local dealer where I purchased is helpful but a little unsure: early days I suppose. Difficult to know what to expect from 6incher but I did sell a very nice 2007 FSR Stumpy with Fox on it to get this bike! Enduro is in another class obviously but shame about the fork when I consider how good the spike valve rear shock is.
12:13 AM on July 07, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Hey Squid Rings, i have found through experience that our irritating problems are to be expected from a new suspension design bur dont hesitate to call spesh youself, the after market support is second to none, they will fix any issues with your bike....they sent me a new fork and its superb, happy riding.
02:38 PM on July 07, 2007 UTC squid rings wrote:
thanks sl rider. dont get me wrong, am a very happy sl rider myself, despite my comments. the bike is in a league of its own, in my opinion. did think of contacting spesh direct but didnt find an obvious route so left it be for a while. all the rain is giving more than enough to deal with!
12:49 PM on July 09, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Hooray, now my rear shock has began clunking over square edge bumps, spesh tell me its blown internal valve seals oh joy!! new unit on the way but still havin to shell out 25 pounds for new bushes,ggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
So far i cant fault the bike on performance but the reliability issues are begining to annoy. It would be good to see posts reporting owners experiences with this bike.
02:11 PM on July 09, 2007 UTC squid rings wrote:
Dont say that SL Rider - I've been raving on about how good the rear shock is in these posts! Have today experienced 1st hand spesh's customer service directly as opposed to through the dealer. 1st class/very helpful. Addressed the lack of rebound control by telling me a little trick - admiteddly against the advice of the manual, but I didnt just say that! I know what you mean about reliability but from what I've heard the grass isnt much greener elsewhere and at least we've got 1st class support.
10:00 AM on July 10, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Whats the little trick eh ?
04:42 PM on July 12, 2007 UTC Adam Mitchell wrote:
Can I get this on DVD??
I tried to Download, but doesn't seem possible, unless anyone gan help.
02:00 AM on July 14, 2007 UTC squid rings wrote:
Adam, possibly the wrong media player/internet settings as you should be able to watch on-line i.e. no need to download. Hope this helps.
10:50 AM on July 15, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Hi all, got my new rear shock today , paired with my new fork the bike is amazing !
04:08 PM on August 12, 2007 UTC Bob wrote:
Hey everybody, I'm attending my first year of college and just bought an 08 Hardrock. This is the first bike that I have ever owned that has an adjustable suspension. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the knobs on the top of the forks do and how they should be set. Any information is greatly appreciated, thanks.
04:19 AM on August 13, 2007 UTC SL RIDER wrote:
Hi, what make of forks are they and what model?
12:39 AM on August 23, 2007 UTC MT. ROVER wrote:
Can someone explain the difference in performance in "Slack" vs "Steep" mode. I ride mostly in SF Bay Area in Santa Cruz mountains.
11:07 PM on October 07, 2007 UTC Shane "41" Baxter wrote:
... Enduro SL Pro Carbon... where can I get info on rebuilding the E150 forks? or fixing the leakage problems?
11:53 AM on October 11, 2007 UTC squid rings wrote:
shane... i assume you came by your bike through ebay or are out of warranty period? spesh happily supported my issues re this fork. should be upto 3rd gen of the e150 available to you. not sure about having a go yourself. know any moto-crossers!?! they're normally pretty clued up on the tools of forks.